Ask Anything (Granddaddy Spoiler Thread)

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  • baragan said:
    is the identity of the old man with an armor on the ship ever revealed. the one who taught meng hao the black and white bead technique. how strong is he (cliche question)
    No
  • edited October 2016
    could someone give some spoilers on the butterflies carrying the coffin, the giants dragging the bridge (at least that the way it was portrayed earlier on) and the last one being the statue of a man with white hair.

    My speculation is (at least thats what i assume from some spoilers ive seen but ignored) that the giants dragging the brigde or bridges belonged to the ancient god/devil/demon race of the paragon immortal world and the bridge or bridges they were dragging were the same as MH's copied version from comprehension and that they other two the butterflies and the statue came from other worlds comparable to the paragon immortal world. And if my speculation is correct does that mean that there are two huge worlds out there? also why did they attack the paragon world? 
    In ancient times, PIW was not the only immortal land. There were two other immortal lands as well; God mainland and Demon mainland. They are brainwashed and created by Heaven's Crown starry sky's master to seize/collect bronze mirror(s) or any other thing he would like them to do. They think they can revive their Patriarch's by using the bronze mirror, which is a big fat lie/deceit by Heaven's Crown. The war which shattered PIW was related to bronze mirror as well.

    P.S.: 9MS and Demon and God mainlands aren't the only places where cultivators exist in Heaven's Crown starry sky.
  • zkzk
    edited October 2016
    What so special about the planet south heaven ? and how many love relationship he have in the end ? And in the end what happen to the bronze mirror? and what happen to the 33 mortal after the war and final did the MH went to the Demon world and God world ?
  • Azureus said:
    could someone give some spoilers on the butterflies carrying the coffin, the giants dragging the bridge (at least that the way it was portrayed earlier on) and the last one being the statue of a man with white hair.

    My speculation is (at least thats what i assume from some spoilers ive seen but ignored) that the giants dragging the brigde or bridges belonged to the ancient god/devil/demon race of the paragon immortal world and the bridge or bridges they were dragging were the same as MH's copied version from comprehension and that they other two the butterflies and the statue came from other worlds comparable to the paragon immortal world. And if my speculation is correct does that mean that there are two huge worlds out there? also why did they attack the paragon world? 
    In ancient times, PIW was not the only immortal land. There were two other immortal lands as well; God mainland and Demon mainland. They are brainwashed and created by Heaven's Crown starry sky's master to seize/collect bronze mirror(s) or any other thing he would like them to do. They think they can revive their Patriarch's by using the bronze mirror, which is a big fat lie/deceit by Heaven's Crown. The war which shattered PIW was related to bronze mirror as well.

    P.S.: 9MS and Demon and God mainlands aren't the only places where cultivators exist in Heaven's Crown starry sky.
    Thanks for clarifying my mistake
  • zk said:
    What so special about the planet south heaven ? and how many love relationship he have in the end ? And in the end what happen to the bronze mirror? and what happen to the 33 mortal after the war and final did the MH went to the Demon world and God world ?

    Planet SH is
    a No Dao Realm Place. Li (Tang) Clan (related to Lord Li) sacrificed their whole clan (except the Tang Emperor) to create a wide net and so no Dao Realm person can enter SH. It is also called South Heaven Gate.There are more major spoilers attached to it - its better to read it in translations.


    At where I am so far he already started a family and has more than
    180
    sons & daughter
    who in turn multiply so much that soon there are enough people by themselves to create a small kingdom


    Nothing special happened to bronze mirror. Still a mystery

    33 days are destroyed
    once before destruction of 9MS
    and once at end of story, for real


    Why do u want MH to go to DW & IGM?

  • zk said:
    What so special about the planet south heaven ?
    A huge planetary demon butterfly corpse is imprisoned there. And some other demons which were sealed by using all the members of Li clan as sacrifice. Remember the door in rebirth cave? In there.

    zk said:
    how many love relationship he have in the end ? 
    Just Xu Qing.

    zk said:
    And in the end what happen to the bronze mirror?
    Bronze mirror is actually an OP armor. And MH has just 1 fragment of it out of 9. He'll collect all the fragments by the end of novel.

    zk said:
    what happen to the 33 mortal after the war
    Long story short, he'll skin them alive, everyone single one of them and put their souls in a fiery hell, where they will burn and suffer for eternity. Ah, that part was refreshing lol.

    zk said:
    did the MH went to the Demon world and God world ?
    After he gets rid of 33 days, they'll come for him, to get eradicated as a result.




  • Who is heavens crown and whats is its relation with parrot ???
  • will meng hao go to the sea god world all cool accompanied by the huge back beatles?
  • im a bit confused so is his demonic qi no longer useful or were they only useful for demonic beast....
  • Who is Su yan and what kind of significance does she have??

  • Who is Su yan and what kind of significance does she have??

    Lord Fifth's choir member. :)
  • Who is heavens crown and whats is its relation with parrot ???

    Who is heavens crown and whats is its relation with parrot ???
    Master of Meng Hao's current universe/starry sky. I think both Parrot and Heaven's crown came together to MH's universe for some reason.
  • Alexfilia said:
    will meng hao go to the sea god world all cool accompanied by the huge back beatles?
    Yes, but not accompanied by the Beatles tho. He'll keep them in his bag of holding.
  • edited October 2016
    SPWJin said:
    im a bit confused so is his demonic qi no longer useful or were they only useful for demonic beast....
    It is still useful, he'll still keep using it at some points, especially "Righteous Bestowal" technique.

    Who is Su yan and what kind of significance does she have??

    She comes from Demon Mainland. MH will learn an OP seven steps technique from her.




  • Azureus said:
    SPWJin said:
    im a bit confused so is his demonic qi no longer useful or were they only useful for demonic beast....
    It is still useful, he'll still keep using it at some points, especially "Righteous Bestowal" technique.

    Who is Su yan and what kind of significance does she have??

    She comes from Demon Mainland. MH will learn an OP seven steps technique from her.




    Su Yan has the Su word, probably related to Su Ming in some ways.
  • Azureus said:
    Who is heavens crown and whats is its relation with parrot ???

    Who is heavens crown and whats is its relation with parrot ???
    Master of Meng Hao's current universe/starry sky. I think both Parrot and Heaven's crown came together to MH's universe for some reason.
    Heaven's crown was originally a clone of a true/real immortal outside of this universe. He and a girl was in a fight with the parrot (his original body and parrot original master also in a fight somewhere) but he is badly defeated and did a suicide attack in a hope to take the parrot with him which resulted in he, the girl and the parrot thrown to this universe.



  • you know how MH becomes a heavens crown immortal after fusing with the nirvana fruits, and apparently there is a being known as heavens crown in some other cultivation world do the heavens crown families have some kind of a relation to that heavens crown chap from other universe?
    also later in the story do we see Su Yan again and learn of her background? Because like it was stated by MH that she has unique abilities like the wang clan which could mean that she is probably a descendant of Su Ming like mentioned above in the thread - although it is highly unlikely does she come from some kind of strong clan or is the surname just a coincidence?  Thanks and sorry for the long post.
  • you know how MH becomes a heavens crown immortal after fusing with the nirvana fruits, and apparently there is a being known as heavens crown in some other cultivation world do the heavens crown families have some kind of a relation to that heavens crown chap from other universe?
    also later in the story do we see Su Yan again and learn of her background? Because like it was stated by MH that she has unique abilities like the wang clan which could mean that she is probably a descendant of Su Ming like mentioned above in the thread - although it is highly unlikely does she come from some kind of strong clan or is the surname just a coincidence?  Thanks and sorry for the long post.
    heaven's crown, the current heaven of this universe is a clone of a real immortal outside of this universe. After he become the heaven for sometime, for unknown reason his body started to degenerate/disappear and he starting to slumber. During the time of the third detached he started to awake and started a plan to restore his power, he spread his blood to the universe and the people/clan that get his blood is what started the heaven crown family (so basically the heaven crown families are technically his descendant). After they grow he incite an attack to the homeworld of the talented person descent from heaven crown family so they turn into a demon (like what happen to meng hao and shui daozi) therefore he can absorb them and use somekind of demon changeable ability (demonic qi to immortal qi things) to restore his power


    for Su Yan, it is unknown of her status but the devil mainland people seems to regard her life highly so it's possible that she's indeed related to Su Ming

  • edited October 2016
    you know how MH becomes a heavens crown immortal after fusing with the nirvana fruits, and apparently there is a being known as heavens crown in some other cultivation world do the heavens crown families have some kind of a relation to that heavens crown chap from other universe?
     
    Yes, all Heaven's Crown families have Heaven's Crown's bloodline in their veins. Their purpose is to produce geniuses who can step into Transendence/Dao source realm to become nourishment to dying Heaven's Crown.

    also later in the story do we see Su Yan again and learn of her background? Because like it was stated by MH that she has unique abilities like the wang clan which could mean that she is probably a descendant of Su Ming like mentioned above in the thread - although it is highly unlikely does she come from some kind of strong clan or is the surname just a coincidence?  Thanks and sorry for the long post.

    She comes from Demon Mainland. And the patriarch which Demon Mainland immortals want to "revive" is Su Ming from Beseech the Devil novel. But they're all under Heaven's Crown's illusion and Su Ming is alive and kicking outside Heaven's Crown starry sky. So whether or not Su Yan is a legit descendant of Su Ming is not revealed.


  • Hm?
    So, is it possible that Su Yan is an illusion created by Heaven's Crown?
  • Lyel said:
    Hm?
    So, is it possible that Su Yan is an illusion created by Heaven's Crown?
    Not an illusion, but they (Demon Mainland immortals) indeed are created by Heaven's Crown. iirc, they have nothing to do with Su Ming, but they are under Heaven's Crown's illusion thinking that they must do all they can to revive their patriarch. Heaven's Crown created Demon and God Mainlands to do his biddings for him, like collecting bronze mirror fragments. iirc, they are not even cultivators.
  • Do you guys remember the patriach that meat jelly spoke with for a long time inside meng hao bag of holding to torture him? What ever happened to him and the other people that meng hao placed inside his bag are they still in there???
  • edited October 2016
    Bizen said:
    Do you guys remember the patriach that meat jelly spoke with for a long time inside meng hao bag of holding to torture him? What ever happened to him and the other people that meng hao placed inside his bag are they still in there???
    Him and the guy from Ji Clan get forgotten and become invalid. Never mentioned again.
  • What happened to Li Ling'er after she got taken by the white robbed paragon women? What cultivation does she have at the end of the novel?
  • heaven's crown, the current heaven of this universe is a clone of a real immortal outside of this universe. After he become the heaven for sometime, for unknown reason his body started to degenerate/disappear and he starting to slumber. During the time of the third detached he started to awake and started a plan to restore his power, he spread his blood to the universe and the people/clan that get his blood is what started the heaven crown family (so basically the heaven crown families are technically his descendant). After they grow he incite an attack to the homeworld of the talented person descent from heaven crown family so they turn into a demon (like what happen to meng hao and shui daozi) therefore he can absorb them and use somekind of demon changeable ability (demonic qi to immortal qi things) to restore his power


    for Su Yan, it is unknown of her status but the devil mainland people seems to regard her life highly so it's possible that she's indeed related to Su Ming

    Thanks,

    Azureus said:
    Yes, all Heaven's Crown families have Heaven's Crown's bloodline in their veins. Their purpose is to produce geniuses who can step into Transendence/Dao source realm to become nourishment to dying Heaven's Crown.

    She comes from Demon Mainland. And the patriarch which Demon Mainland immortals want to "revive" is Su Ming from Beseech the Devil novel. But they're all under Heaven's Crown's illusion and Su Ming is alive and kicking outside Heaven's Crown starry sky. So whether or not Su Yan is a legit descendant of Su Ming is not revealed.


    Is it proven that
    Su Ming is alive in ISSTH? or at least did someone say that he was alive?
    also Su Yan could potentially be Su Mings descendant as
    apparently at the end of BtD he had a son with his beloved (whom i have no clue about), so it is possible that Su Ming's son had children as he grew stronger and passed his abilities along and later on she could be their direct descendant possibly?
    After all she wouldnt have powerful abilities like the Wang clans if their descent was not powerful so it is a possibility.
  • Is it proven that
    Su Ming is alive in ISSTH? or at least did someone say that he was alive?
    also Su Yan could potentially be Su Mings descendant as
    apparently at the end of BtD he had a son with his beloved (whom i have no clue about), so it is possible that Su Ming's son had children as he grew stronger and passed his abilities along and later on she could be their direct descendant possibly?
    After all she wouldnt have powerful abilities like the Wang clans if their descent was not powerful so it is a possibility.
    yes but it was never stated that it was Su Ming. It was only stated that the detached from devil path, the one who became a world left this universe after sometime and from the description seems to regret that he has to left.(with the sigh thing when he look at his former world)
    for Su yan
    yes it's possible but you have to remember that the current immortal god continent and devil mainland are fake created by heaven (most of them anyway since it seems some survive the purge by heaven)
  • IMO none of the descendants of those who left the universe will be staying here, coz why will they allow their relatives to be in a place where heaven's crown can control them? Isn't that equivalent to giving HC their weakness on silver plate?

    If i m nt wrong
    the current IGM and DM are created from HC's memory and all of them were brainwashed by him and were doing him biddings. Su Yan just happens to be sharing same surname. Those who can actually read chinese can even check if the manner of writing "Su" in their name is same or not. It might be a case like how Wang Clan was living in 9MS - they were WL's relatives but not directly related

  • IMO none of the descendants of those who left the universe will be staying here, coz why will they allow their relatives to be in a place where heaven's crown can control them? Isn't that equivalent to giving HC their weakness on silver plate?

    If i m nt wrong
    the current IGM and DM are created from HC's memory and all of them were brainwashed by him and were doing him biddings. Su Yan just happens to be sharing same surname. Those who can actually read chinese can even check if the manner of writing "Su" in their name is same or not. It might be a case like how Wang Clan was living in 9MS - they were WL's relatives but not directly related

    yes
    but not all of them destroyed in heaven purge, some of them like greedy wolf and choumen tai survived but didn't know that their worlds already destroyed and their friends or relatives replaced by heaven. Also near the end the survivors of their world were transported to outside of this universe. The current Immortal god continent and devil mainlands are fake created from heaven memories but they didn't know they are fake (they think they are the real one)
  • Can anyone tell me why the demon cultivators want to kill MH and how will he make them pay back?

    Saw a spoiler about it somewhere but can't seem to find it. 
  • edited October 2016
    Can anyone tell me why the demon cultivators want to kill MH and how will he make them pay back?

    Saw a spoiler about it somewhere but can't seem to find it. 
    Deathblade said:
    it's just the Demonic cultivators. All sea creatures in the Ninth Mountain and Sea descended from them, and they can tell from his aura that he essentially massacred countless sea beasts in the Milky Way Sea. Thus they hate him
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