Is Renegade immortal worth reading?

Randelstory

Would like to know what the novel is about:
1. Why read it/continue reading it
2. General direction of where the story is to go about
3. Any special things about the mc? (you dont have to go too in depth, since this question is very vague. Just pitch in anything that comes to your mind)
4. Polygamy(harem) or nahhh

I don't mind getting spoiled
Thanks !!

DeathStroke96

1. Just trying to become an immortal but with great difficulty as the cultivation world is brutal to those without talent
2. At first it was sect, then sea of devils and trying to get back home, followed by the best arc found anywhere from immortal to mortal back to immortal - most people loved this arc as wang Lin changed from a murderer to a more rational person
3. A guy without talent thrown into a world of ruthless cultivators and a devil behind his ear telling him to be a devil as well... later on he changes and doesn't kill unless it is a last resort measure...
4. Single love but t starts blooming quite late as it was with ISSTH...

And lastly totally worth reading in my opinion it is much better than ISSTH...

LigerCero

I personally like the somber mood in this story. ISSTH is also good but I find Xian Ni/Renegade Immortal to be more my taste.

Prady

I personally like this several times more than issth. so yes, very worth reading

Hollowow

Same here. The writing in ISSTH is a little better but Renegade Immortal has the better MC/Story ( but the Story is darker than in ISSTH).

Zatarot

Yes much better on an emotional/introspective level than ISSTH. I haven't finished RI only 500 chaps in but if I had to pick the better of the two up to that point it would most likely Renegade Immortal, but that is mainly because of the premise where Renegade Immortal is a dark tragedy, which appeal to me more,whereas ISSTH is heavy on the humor/mystery with a more mainstream appeal.

Wais

Personaly, i kind of stoped reading issth because i discovered this. It is really good. It is true that he kind of have a cheat the bead but other than that, he use his gust and his head to become stronger in a world where everyone wants him dead (and it is not a joke). The fact that he surmont every obstacle by himself is by all means much more worth than Meng Hao with is destiny and kind. So you should really read it.

yhatsz09

Wais said:

Personaly, i kind of stoped reading issth because i discovered this. It is really good. It is true that he kind of have a cheat the bead but other than that, he use his gust and his head to become stronger in a world where everyone wants him dead (and it is not a joke). The fact that he surmont every obstacle by himself is by all means much more worth than Meng Hao with is destiny and kind. So you should really read it.

you mean to say that meng hao doesn't use his head to become stronger in a UNIVERSE that wants him dead? comments here about ISSTH is always biased. 

DeathStroke96

yhatsz09 said:

Wais said:

Personaly, i kind of stoped reading issth because i discovered this. It is really good. It is true that he kind of have a cheat the bead but other than that, he use his gust and his head to become stronger in a world where everyone wants him dead (and it is not a joke). The fact that he surmont every obstacle by himself is by all means much more worth than Meng Hao with is destiny and kind. So you should really read it.

you mean to say that meng hao doesn't use his head to become stronger in a UNIVERSE that wants him dead? comments here about ISSTH is always biased. 

I’m sorry, but each time a threat is too big for Meng Hao to surmount someone bails him out, perfect examples, his parents, shui donglin, his clan and all those powerhouses that suddenly appear and they decide to be his supporters for some unknown reason giving him power ups.

the only thing that is memorable about Meng Hao is his bashful smile and that was also the thing that I hated the most about it. Yes there were pretty good moments with him but ergen ruined his character when the third spirit severing happened, as all the character development he received was basically deleted for it to be brought back when the nine mountains were destroyed.

Wang Lin on the other hand never had anyone other than Situ Nan help him out, others were just grooming or using him to help make themselves stronger. But at least wang lins path which was never perfect allowed him to get to the top through sheer effort and resilience.

now tell me what did that perfection of Meng Hao do, just made his progression dead easy and whenever he was in trouble shui donglin or someone came around and fixed it for him.

zoldik95

why read it? well.... This is my first xianxia novel  I read the manhua first n it look decent, so i try the novel. honestly i stop in the middle bcause it bcome abit boring (the "running" arc vs octopus guy)why continue it? after i drop ths novel, @Rex begin to retranslate with better quality n i also heard that the arc after the "running" arc is good, plus the story get better after that. soo i give it a second chance n i am not dissapointed

general direction:at first, it was like another xianxia. U know, with trash MC, got Lucky, have a grandpa (devil), he bcome strong, but if u think this novel is like another xianxia with their stupid young master, U ARE WRONG (well there is a stupid young master surnamed deng but only that i think?) anyway it wasnt like another xianxia where the MC almost always find stupid young masters > kill the young master> family got pissed>young master family try to kill MC>Someone Op bcome MC teacher+backing>mc bcome stronger>kill the entire family.. MC also did it but only once i think. his cultivation purpose isnt to be the stroongest or to protect, his main purpose is actually for love (n if u are comparing him with Ji ning, i can only say WL is on another level). WL did not try to be smart like most of the MC (when latter made a stupid mistake that will make u facepalm). he is cunning n very caution.

he is cuning, veery caution n u know.... not  a hypocrite

harem or not? as far as i know there are 2 love interest but only one true love. basicaly if u need a harem to satisfy ur imagination, go read MGA, ATG. GOS

yhatsz09

DeathStroke96 said:

yhatsz09 said:

Wais said:

Personaly, i kind of stoped reading issth because i discovered this. It is really good. It is true that he kind of have a cheat the bead but other than that, he use his gust and his head to become stronger in a world where everyone wants him dead (and it is not a joke). The fact that he surmont every obstacle by himself is by all means much more worth than Meng Hao with is destiny and kind. So you should really read it.

you mean to say that meng hao doesn't use his head to become stronger in a UNIVERSE that wants him dead? comments here about ISSTH is always biased. 

I’m sorry, but each time a threat is too big for Meng Hao to surmount someone bails him out, perfect examples, his parents, shui donglin, his clan and all those powerhouses that suddenly appear and they decide to be his supporters for some unknown reason giving him power ups.

the only thing that is memorable about Meng Hao is his bashful smile and that was also the thing that I hated the most about it. Yes there were pretty good moments with him but ergen ruined his character when the third spirit severing happened, as all the character development he received was basically deleted for it to be brought back when the nine mountains were destroyed.

Wang Lin on the other hand never had anyone other than Situ Nan help him out, others were just grooming or using him to help make themselves stronger. But at least wang lins path which was never perfect allowed him to get to the top through sheer effort and resilience.

now tell me what did that perfection of Meng Hao do, just made his progression dead easy and whenever he was in trouble shui donglin or someone came around and fixed it for him.

so someone helping out MC is bad for the novel? what kinda logic is that? i get that you love WL so much that you can't connect with Meng Hao's personality. but hating the novel just because of that is kinda dumb. 

DeathStroke96

yhatsz09 said:

DeathStroke96 said:

yhatsz09 said:

Wais said:

Personaly, i kind of stoped reading issth because i discovered this. It is really good. It is true that he kind of have a cheat the bead but other than that, he use his gust and his head to become stronger in a world where everyone wants him dead (and it is not a joke). The fact that he surmont every obstacle by himself is by all means much more worth than Meng Hao with is destiny and kind. So you should really read it.

you mean to say that meng hao doesn't use his head to become stronger in a UNIVERSE that wants him dead? comments here about ISSTH is always biased. 

I’m sorry, but each time a threat is too big for Meng Hao to surmount someone bails him out, perfect examples, his parents, shui donglin, his clan and all those powerhouses that suddenly appear and they decide to be his supporters for some unknown reason giving him power ups.

the only thing that is memorable about Meng Hao is his bashful smile and that was also the thing that I hated the most about it. Yes there were pretty good moments with him but ergen ruined his character when the third spirit severing happened, as all the character development he received was basically deleted for it to be brought back when the nine mountains were destroyed.

Wang Lin on the other hand never had anyone other than Situ Nan help him out, others were just grooming or using him to help make themselves stronger. But at least wang lins path which was never perfect allowed him to get to the top through sheer effort and resilience.

now tell me what did that perfection of Meng Hao do, just made his progression dead easy and whenever he was in trouble shui donglin or someone came around and fixed it for him.

so someone helping out MC is bad for the novel? what kinda logic is that? i get that you love WL so much that you can't connect with Meng Hao's personality. but hating the novel just because of that is kinda dumb. 

Did I say that I hate the novel? I only stated that ISSTH is an inferior novel compared to RI and that MH is just a spoilt brat, you can love him for all I care.

Also helping out, yeah I don’t mind, however in MHs case it’s each time, he doesn’t learn to surpass his issues unless someone dealt with it before to lower the difficulty level, also I wouldn’t mind it, if they solved his issues once or twice, however they solve MHs issues constantly in the novel.

zoldik95

well things getting a little bit.....

yhatsz09 dont u think that u jump to conclusion too soon here?

first @DeathStroke96 never said MH never used his head to be stronger
second, he never said ISSTH is bad novel

n I do agree with him, i mean i am fine with him getting help once or twice but almost everytime?

plus if u think that comments here about ISSTH is always biassed, m u dont like it, why bother coming n responding in the first place?

tendou

Renegade immortal is more like the original Er Gen's writing style. (If you can say so, lol)

Isssth is where Er Gen adopts what's popular and mainstream , taking things that have mass appeals. A new writing style.
And he need to change details here and there. The MCs characteristic is also changed. 

Pop culture vs niche.

ab4ddon

I think i would pick a niche more than Pop culture and IMO i think RI(XN) is better than ISSTH HEY I SAID IMO!

lzpwxw

I was getting impatient and got myself reading the chinese version. just finished reading it, and damn, the sources on internet were not that good.

anyway, RI is definitely my favorite novel but I think this novel is not for those who seek the clarity of story. personally I think there were so many things that were being rushed in the end. maybe because er gen was getting tired of the story, dunno.
there're so many events  and battles in the land of immortals that were being shortened and not in details, many aspects of stories were being left out without explanation.
if the author was putting his all in this novel, it should be more than 3000 chapters to adress all the mysteries in RI universe. 

btw, for me the most memorable story aspect in RI: "you escaped one circle, only to find yourself in another circle."

mxyzplk

Do you think the translator influences how a story is enjoyable?

Randelstory

mxyzplk said:

Do you think the translator influences how a story is enjoyable?

Not really, both stories from RI and ISSTH have very good translators so there is no discomfort or at least grammar isn't an issue if that's what you meant.

Also ya'll need to stop comparing two novels of two different timelines and different universes. Since if you've read RI you can definitely see that realms differ i.e(thunder realm and cultivation alliance realm) from each other what more two continents so far apart from each other(9 mountains and seas which still didn't exist at this time). And yes MH has had multiple help from more powerful people than him, and the same can be said to WL. There have been multiple people who've helped WL only to give him more benefits afterwards even.

If I were to pick a novel based on the difficulty of the mc's trials then my pick would have to be Su Ming from Beseech the Devil or otherwise named pursuit of the truth now. Compared to Su Ming's journey it's as if Wang Lin's were a walk in the park.

Anci3nt0ne_

So after reading ISSTH I thought that RI would not be able to compete. But after reading it I realize it is for me the best story I have read since I have been cultivation novels. Meng Hao was great as a character but against Wang Lin he just can't compete at all.

JustAlex1337

Nice thinking , Wang Lin is truly the best mc created by Er Gen , only Su Ming is also good , cause it doesn't feel like they are using any kind of plot armor compared to MH and BXC , well probably MH and BXC don't have that much plot armor either , idk but if you read the novels and start comparing it will truly seem as if MH and BXC have infinite plot armor, but if you don't read RI and PoTT , it will not seem that way,idk everyone with their preference , if you read for the story you will of course choose RI or PoTT but if you read it only for no reason , just read those novels more appealing to most of the readers [ normies ]