Yun Family's Ancestor (True God)

Well, that's something that I thought of centuries ago when I had read the chapter 309, and since I thought that this is not something hard to imagine and that maybe people had already discussed this here, I had never posted it, but since seemingly people haven't guessed it yet, let's talk about it now.

This is just a short theory.

Chapter 309 – Variant Profound Handle


Yun Che let out a light breath. Even if he was sure about his success, this was, after all, the first time he was using the Profound Handle this way, and couldn’t help feeling nervous in his heart. So as to ensure that no mistake happens during the process, he immediately opened the first and second profound entrances… Right when he activated Burning Heart, a sudden change happened to the radiance before his eyes… The originally red-colored Profound Handle had surprisingly turned into orange color all of a sudden… and after maintaining the orange color for a second, it immediately became yellow.

The aura of the Profound Handle’s power had also increased by twice as much as before!

“This strange thing can actually change its color?!” Cang Yue cried out in surprise. However, Yun Che could only stare blankly at this sudden change.

What’s going on here!?

How can the color of the profound handle change to yellow?!

Grandfather said that after the awakening of Profound Handle, it wouldn’t change throughout one’s life! When my Profound Handle awakened, it was clearly the lowest ranked, Red Profound Handle… So how can it alter like this?!

Furthermore, not only did its color alter, its strength has also become as strong as a Yellow Profound Handle!

Wait a minute! Don’t tell me…

Yun Che suddenly thought of a possibility, and quickly closed his second profound entrance while maintaining the Evil Soul state.

Immediately, the Profound Handle changed from yellow to orange.

Yun Che closed his Evil Soul Gate as well, and maintained a state with all the profound entrances closed… which made the Profound Handle to at once change back to red again!

Yun Che reactivated Burning Heart, and the Profound Handle instantly changed from red to yellow.

Watching the strange phenomena of the radiant profound power’s continuous color change, Yun Che’s expression grew even grimmer. Dongfang Xiu and Cang Yue held their breaths and didn’t dare to make any sound, as they thought the phenomena reflected Yun Che’s progress in some way and opted to act with prudence.

Yun Che believed that Yun Canghai absolutely wouldn’t deceive him. As such, this kind of change in profound handles was definitely abnormal.

Perhaps it was due to my own special profound veins?

A profound handle was derived from both the blood vessels and profound veins. It was extremely possible that he awakened the weakest, red profound handle because of his originally damaged profound veins, and he had just rebuilt new ones at the age of sixteen. There was no difference between his Evil God’s profound veins and normal profound veins under its normal state, but with every opened Gate, the power of his profound veins would be further boosted.

In the same ratio, there would be a leap in the power of Evil God’s profound veins with every opened Gate… He already knew that the power of the profound handle and profound veins were interrelated, so he wondered whether the mutation of his profound handle occurred due to the particularity of his profound veins, and also pondered over the possibility of the leap in his profound power being the factor… that was spurring on a qualitative change in the profound handle?

This was the only one explanation.

Not only could his profound handle be a manifestation of his power, it could also be a manifestation of his spirit. Moreover, he was able to freely switch between them any time he wished. This uniqueness of his profound handle that simply overturned the common sense, further increased the odds of him eliminating the malicious parasite present in Cang Wanhe’s body. Only, he never thought that even before starting to eliminate the malicious poison, he would come across such an accident… No, wrong! Rather than calling this an accident, it’d be better to call this a completely unexpected pleasant surprise. Although in the beginning, his feelings toward the profound handle wasn’t as intense as that of the people of his Yun Clan, but it was after all a powerful and unconventional ability. In the eyes of the people of Yun Clan, it was even more so a spiritual power. Every increase in the power of the profound handle would result in a substantial upgrade of their overall strength.

A Red Profound Handle could only display ten percent of one’s strength.

But a Yellow Profound Handle could display thirty percent of one’s strength.

As every opened Gate could trigger a qualitative change in the profound handle, then when he opens “Purgatory,” he should be able to change it into the Green Profound Handle, which can display forty percent of one’s strength!

In the future, when he would be able to open “Rumbling Heaven,” he could even change it into the Cyan Profound Handle, similar to what Yun Canghai possessed.

But, when he would be able to open “Hades,” he could even exceed Yun Canghai and have a Blue Profound Handle, which could display one’s sixty percent strength. Just how much of a frightful assistance would the Profound Handle would be then?!

Thinking about the possibilities, Yun Che’s heart felt a bit excited. He at once suppressed down all these unnecessary emotions, and concentrated his mind…


As we can see above, the Profound Handle reacts to the Evil God's Profound Gates. 

According to Yun Canghai, there are 8 different Profound Handles, varying in color and strength. They are: Red (10% power), orange (20% power), yellow (30% power), green (40% power), cyan (50% power), blue (60% power), purple (70% power), and gold (100% power).

If we include the state in which no Evil God's Profound Gates are open, we will have 8 states, coincidentally the same amount of Profound Handles that exist.

Conveniently, if someone with the Evil God's Profound Veins has the Profound Handle, he or she will be able to display each of the different Profound Handles and even the gold Profound Handle if he/she manage to open the seventh gate.

Why would the Evil God's Profound Veins relate so perfectly with the Profound Handle?


Chapter 292 – Information about the Azure Cloud Continent

As the demon said that, his sealed left hand started to flicker with a cyan radiance: “In the records that the ancestors left behind, it once talked about our noble Yun Family being the descendant of some Primordial True God’s bloodline! And this Profound Handle, is precisely an ability that only a True God could possess!”

This is something Yun Canghai told to Yun Che when he was talking about the Profound Handle. As we have read here, the Profound Handle probably came from a True God, and the Yun Family is its offspring.

But why would there be a True God's offspring within Blue Pole Star?

Chapter 609 – Seed of the Evil God – Lightning


“In this boundless universe with countless stars, to have an inheritor of a divine legacy is one in a hundred billion, yet on this little Blue Pole Star, there exists so many… from the Primordial Era. What exactly happened on this star? To have the vestiges of so many divine beings?”

Jasmine’s sudden question caused the Golden Crow’s soul to become silent. The pair of pure gold pupils stopped moving for a long while. Then, she said with an intense voice: “Since you wish to know, this noble one will answer you… The reason why this star is called the Blue Pole Star is because it is divided into one percent of land and ninety nine percent water! From the outside, this star is azure.”

“However it was not called Blue Pole Star previously. Back then, it was forty percent land and sixty percent water. The reason is because during the calamity of the Primordial Gods, a large portion of the land was destroyed into nothingness, leaving the current one percent. What’s more, this star was located at the other end of the spatial chaos previously, not even a hundred Star Realms apart from the world in which you were born.”

“What?” Jasmine scrunched her eyebrows: “What you are saying, is that back then this star traveled across half of the spatial chaos?”

“That’s right! It continued to exist after experiencing such a force, and to just have ninety percent of its land to be destroyed, even in the Realm of Gods, this is an irreplicable miracle. The one who preserved this star was precisely the Evil God! Because this Blue Pole Star… was the first star that he created!”


Let's gather the information collected so far.

1st: The Yun Family is the offspring of a True God from the Primordial Era.

2nd: The Profound Handle relates conveniently and perfectly with the Evil God's Profound Veins.

3rd: The Evil God is the creator of Blue Pole Star.

This probably rang some bells in your brain right now.

The Evil God is the one who created the Blue Pole Star, so from all the True Gods that have existed, the Evil God is the one who has the highest chance of leaving behind a offspring within Blue Pole Star. If that's so, Yun Che is not only his inheritor, but he, along with the whole Yun Family, is a true descendant of the Evil God.

Edit: There's another fact I could have used to support the theory, but I haven't:

Chapter 110 – 《World Ode of the Phoenix · Fragments》 (5)


“The Evil God does not align with any of the elements, for he is actually the nemesis of all the elements. But no one can compare to the Evil God in terms of familiarity and capability in wielding the elements. If you somehow manage to completely inherit the Evil God’s powers, then not only fire, even water, wind, thunder, earth, domain, dimension, spirit… would all be subdued by you, and would never be able to bring you harm.”

The Profound Handle is basically a spirit/soul, and between the elements within the Evil God's control, there's Spirit/Soul.
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  • edited January 2017
    I agree with your view, but not because of 8 color and 7 gates. Right now, YC is at orange with 0 gate. For me, The nature of profound handle match with Evil god's Berserk characteristic that Jasmine said perfectly

    Who is evil god partner anyway lol. If he's the last true god, then his partner isn't true god probably?
  • this is a great theory but you have touched upon something else where we are in the story yun che received an upgrade so this default profound handle with no gates open is now orange based on your description this means he will unlock golden the highest tier of profound handle known when he eventually opens the 7th gate which leaves the question what would happen if he opened the the 8th gate would he unlock a new level of profound handle beyond gold or something else entirely? 
  • edited January 2017
    BTW when Yun Che does manage to open all the 7 gates, he should be able to possess a Profound Handle that surpasses the Gold version. So at that time, his power should surpass the True God to whom the Profound Handle ability originally belonged to.
    "What fun would it be to become the king of the Tower? Tell Zahard to keep his boring seat. I will get out of the Tower." - Urek Mazino
  • this is a great theory but you have touched upon something else where we are in the story yun che received an upgrade so this default profound handle with no gates open is now orange based on your description this means he will unlock golden the highest tier of profound handle known when he eventually opens the 7th gate which leaves the question what would happen if he opened the the 8th gate would he unlock a new level of profound handle beyond gold or something else entirely? 
    There's no 8th gate.
    "What fun would it be to become the king of the Tower? Tell Zahard to keep his boring seat. I will get out of the Tower." - Urek Mazino
  • Well your theory is nice and refreshing compared with usual theories for a past few days.
    Only problem I could find with this theory is that Yun canghai gave reason for YC having red profound handle was, his original Yun clan bloodline profound veins were destroyed and new veins were not his original viens.
    The power of the Profound Handle, half it comes from one’s blood vessels, while the other half, comes from one’s profound veins. Earlier, you had said that, not long after you were born, your profound veins had been crippled, and your mysterious master had only reforged your profound veins when you were sixteen years old… Newly born profound veins, they are after all, not your innate profound veins, which means, it’s basically unable to spawn a strong Profound Handle, and there might be a possibility that your Profound Handle could not even spawn.

    If evil god was ancestor of yun clan then evil gods profound viens would be absolutely compatible with profound handle and would not cause YC to awaken red profound handle.

  • edited January 2017
    lorwa said:
    I agree with your view, but not because of 8 color and 7 gates. Right now, YC is at orange with 0 gate. For me, The nature of profound handle match with Evil god's Berserk characteristic that Jasmine said perfectly

    Who is evil god partner anyway lol. If he's the last true god, then his partner isn't true god probably?

    The reason why Yun Che's 'no opened gate state' is orange, is because of the Dragon God's Marrow/Soul that changed his body. This change don't invalidates my theory.

    I haven't said that he had the offspring after the Primordial Gods Calamity. His offspring probably was born before the Calamity of the 2nd Heavenly Treasure. If I, like you, think that it's impossible for a offspring of a True God exist in the world now, that thing Yun Canghai has said was useless to the story, and wouldn't make sense for Mars write something like that.

    this is a great theory but you have touched upon something else where we are in the story yun che received an upgrade so this default profound handle with no gates open is now orange based on your description this means he will unlock golden the highest tier of profound handle known when he eventually opens the 7th gate which leaves the question what would happen if he opened the the 8th gate would he unlock a new level of profound handle beyond gold or something else entirely? 

    There's no such a thing like a 8th gate. According to Jasmine, there are only 7 gates.

    Chapter 46 – Evil God’s Seven Realms


    Yun Che shut his eyes and started to look within his new profound veins. All fifty four profound entrances had been opened. Although it was empty inside the profound veins, the odor was incomparably clean. Yun Che attentively investigated and then he started to have an inharmonious feeling. In the next second, his focus was firmly locked on the center of the profound veins…

    The profound veins inside a human body was like a robust and mature tree with many “branches” spreading out in all directions, and on each “branch” laid a profound entrance. As for the “trunk”, it was the most important core position of the profound veins, the base of all the profound veins. On this base, there were no profound entrances.

    However at this moment, he astonishingly found out that on the core position of his profound veins, actually appeared seven imprints similar to profound entrances; Furthermore, it assumed in the arrangement of the Seven Stars of the Ursa Major.
    (TL: Ursa Major is the Big Dipper)

    Although they were shaped like profound entrances, they had a different kind of feeling when compared to ordinary profound entrances; They had a dull color and the location in which they appeared at, immediately shattered Yun Che’s knowledge and caused him to be surprised beyond words.

    “How come there are seven additional profound entrances?” Yun Che asked in astonishment as he opened his eyes.

    “No, those are not profound entrances.” Jasmine said faintly: “Those are used to activate the seven realms of Evil God Arts… The Seven Gates!”

    “Ga… tes?” It was Yun Che’s first time hearing this term.

    “The profound veins that the immortal blood bestowed upon you, has indeed no difference in other aspects when compared with normal profound veins; however the main difference lies in that Evil God’s exclusive Profound Art that it carries, the Evil God Arts! This profound art has in total, seven big gates; it does not need to be cultivated or anything, but rather just exists within your profound veins. Everytime the Evil God Arts have increased by a realm, one of the gates will open… No! It should be said in reverse; every time you opened a gate, the Evil God Arts will be increase by a realm! At the same time, in every realm of the Evil God Arts, there will be a corresponding formidable Evil God’s Profound Skill! Do you understand if I say it this way?” Jasmine slowly explained.


    What you must wonder is: What would happen to the Profound Handle if Yun Che opened his 7th gate? Since his 'no gates opened state' is able to open the 2nd Profound Handle (orange), his 6th gate should be able to open the 8th Profound Handle, the gold one. Then, what would come after?
  • edited January 2017
    reaper said:
    Well your theory is nice and refreshing compared with usual theories for a past few days.
    Only problem I could find with this theory is that Yun canghai gave reason for YC having red profound handle was, his original Yun clan bloodline profound veins were destroyed and new veins were not his original viens.
    The power of the Profound Handle, half it comes from one’s blood vessels, while the other half, comes from one’s profound veins. Earlier, you had said that, not long after you were born, your profound veins had been crippled, and your mysterious master had only reforged your profound veins when you were sixteen years old… Newly born profound veins, they are after all, not your innate profound veins, which means, it’s basically unable to spawn a strong Profound Handle, and there might be a possibility that your Profound Handle could not even spawn.

    If evil god was ancestor of yun clan then evil gods profound viens would be absolutely compatible with profound handle and would not cause YC to awaken red profound handle.


    Yun Canghai obviously wouldn't be able to answer him "Your Profound Handle is red because you have the Evil God's Profound Veins and you haven't opened any Profound Gate". What Yun Canghai had said was the only thing he could think of, since he didn't know much about the Profound Handle or about his ancestor.

    Well, Yun Che had only a red Profound Handle because, obviously, he hasn't opened any gate. Maybe the fact that he was birth a cripple interfered with it, or just because the Evil God's Profound Veins are meant to be like this. Who knows.
  • What do u mean by 7gates cos I believe the Evil god has 5 gates; Evil soul, Burning Heart, Purgatory, Rumbling Heaven & Hades?
    Blessed are those who ain't xpectin 4 surely they shall never ever be disappointed>>>Mars Snail

    2 much ANALYSIS "may" likely lead to PARALYSIS...
  • edited January 2017
    What do u mean by 7gates cos I believe the Evil god has 5 gates; Evil soul, Burning Heart, Purgatory, Rumbling Heaven & Hades?


    Read my comment above. (or below)



    this is a great theory but you have touched upon something else where we are in the story yun che received an upgrade so this default profound handle with no gates open is now orange based on your description this means he will unlock golden the highest tier of profound handle known when he eventually opens the 7th gate which leaves the question what would happen if he opened the the 8th gate would he unlock a new level of profound handle beyond gold or something else entirely? 

    There's no such a thing like a 8th gate. According to Jasmine, there are only 7 gates.

    Chapter 46 – Evil God’s Seven Realms


    Yun Che shut his eyes and started to look within his new profound veins. All fifty four profound entrances had been opened. Although it was empty inside the profound veins, the odor was incomparably clean. Yun Che attentively investigated and then he started to have an inharmonious feeling. In the next second, his focus was firmly locked on the center of the profound veins…

    The profound veins inside a human body was like a robust and mature tree with many “branches” spreading out in all directions, and on each “branch” laid a profound entrance. As for the “trunk”, it was the most important core position of the profound veins, the base of all the profound veins. On this base, there were no profound entrances.

    However at this moment, he astonishingly found out that on the core position of his profound veins, actually appeared seven imprints similar to profound entrances; Furthermore, it assumed in the arrangement of the Seven Stars of the Ursa Major.
    (TL: Ursa Major is the Big Dipper)

    Although they were shaped like profound entrances, they had a different kind of feeling when compared to ordinary profound entrances; They had a dull color and the location in which they appeared at, immediately shattered Yun Che’s knowledge and caused him to be surprised beyond words.

    “How come there are seven additional profound entrances?” Yun Che asked in astonishment as he opened his eyes.

    “No, those are not profound entrances.” Jasmine said faintly: “Those are used to activate the seven realms of Evil God Arts… The Seven Gates!”

    “Ga… tes?” It was Yun Che’s first time hearing this term.

    “The profound veins that the immortal blood bestowed upon you, has indeed no difference in other aspects when compared with normal profound veins; however the main difference lies in that Evil God’s exclusive Profound Art that it carries, the Evil God Arts! This profound art has in total, seven big gates; it does not need to be cultivated or anything, but rather just exists within your profound veins. Everytime the Evil God Arts have increased by a realm, one of the gates will open… No! It should be said in reverse; every time you opened a gate, the Evil God Arts will be increase by a realm! At the same time, in every realm of the Evil God Arts, there will be a corresponding formidable Evil God’s Profound Skill! Do you understand if I say it this way?” Jasmine slowly explained.


    What you must wonder is: What would happen to the Profound Handle if Yun Che opened his 7th gate? Since his 'no gates opened state' is able to open the 2nd Profound Handle (orange), his 6th gate should be able to open the 8th Profound Handle, the gold one. Then, what would come after?


    Well, that's the key part:


    Chapter 46 – Evil God’s Seven Realms


    “How come there are seven additional profound entrances?” Yun Che asked in astonishment as he opened his eyes.

    “No, those are not profound entrances.” Jasmine said faintly: “Those are used to activate the seven realms of Evil God Arts… The Seven Gates!”


    After that Jasmine said that there are other 2 gates, but info about them wasn't included in the memories that she got from the Evil God's Indestructible Blood (maybe because the Evil God never thought that a mortal/human would be able to open them).

  • there are 7 Jasmine only knew the names of the 5, or just told him those names cuz she never thought he will be able to go beyond opening the 5th gate
  • What do u mean by 7gates cos I believe the Evil god has 5 gates; Evil soul, Burning Heart, Purgatory, Rumbling Heaven & Hades?
    There are 7 gates but the first 5 are the theoretical human limit
  • I like the idea, but sorry, I just cannot agree at all. It matches up nicely in theory, but the fact of the matter is that it was said the color of the profound handle is linked to the blood and the profound veins. The reason the base level went up from red to orange is because the dragon marrow improved the quality of his blood enough to make it increase. As it has been stated that he still has room to improve his blood further, it is definitely possible for the base level to increase again. Therefore, the number of gates/profound handle levels don't match up at all.

    Also, the reason it improves with each gate opening, is because each gate that opens improves the quality of the profound veins, thus improving the profound handle. If he had still had his original Yun family veins, he would have most likely had a higher base level, as they are more compatible, but they wouldn't be able to improve further. I believe it was said that without any gates open, his profound veins are basically no different from anyone else's, and since they are not his original ones and are not Yun family profound veins, it makes sense that his original base level was red. Also:
    reaper said:
    Well your theory is nice and refreshing compared with usual theories for a past few days.
    Only problem I could find with this theory is that Yun canghai gave reason for YC having red profound handle was, his original Yun clan bloodline profound veins were destroyed and new veins were not his original viens.
    The power of the Profound Handle, half it comes from one’s blood vessels, while the other half, comes from one’s profound veins. Earlier, you had said that, not long after you were born, your profound veins had been crippled, and your mysterious master had only reforged your profound veins when you were sixteen years old… Newly born profound veins, they are after all, not your innate profound veins, which means, it’s basically unable to spawn a strong Profound Handle, and there might be a possibility that your Profound Handle could not even spawn.

    If evil god was ancestor of yun clan then evil gods profound viens would be absolutely compatible with profound handle and would not cause YC to awaken red profound handle.



    As he said, if the Evil God was the Yun family ancestor, then the veins would have absolutely been compatible and he should have spawned an extremely high level profound handle.

    Finally, as much as the Evil God is talked about, his powers over the elements are always mentioned, yet a power like the profound handle hasn't even been hinted at. If the power came from him, one would think Mars would at least hint at the Evil God having that power.
  • Well, there are two compelling factor in  your theory, that is...
    - Characteristic of evil vein is like profound handle (buff your power by X%)
    - The owner/driver of Blue Star planet is Evil God.

    However, there are some leftover holes to fill:

    - Why doesn't Yun family inherit his evil vein? His evil vein rely on evil god blood, so Yun family bloodline should at least has evil vein right?
    - Where does purple lightning art comes from? Why is it only lightning? Evil God should pass down at least more than 1 element in Yun family right?

    I haven't said that he had the offspring after the Primordial Gods Calamity. His offspring probably was born before the Calamity of the 2nd Heavenly Treasure. If I, like you, think that it's impossible for a offspring of a True God exist in the world now, that thing Yun Canghai has said was useless to the story, and wouldn't make sense for Mars write something like that.

    His offspring could exist, but the offspring would've not born a True God, since Jasmine said after primordial era (after calamity) the primordial qi 
  • I think Yun Che is the reincarnation of the first World Creator
  • My theory is that the Yun Family profound veins act as a support for the profound handle otherwise with Yun Che´s new profound veins he couldn´t have used the profound handle at all.
    So the new support are the evil gods profund veins which can highen their grade with the opening of a gate. So
    following with a greater "support" of the veins the profound handle can reach greater heights.
  • tj5553 said:
    I like the idea, but sorry, I just cannot agree at all. It matches up nicely in theory, but the fact of the matter is that it was said the color of the profound handle is linked to the blood and the profound veins. The reason the base level went up from red to orange is because the dragon marrow improved the quality of his blood enough to make it increase. As it has been stated that he still has room to improve his blood further, it is definitely possible for the base level to increase again. Therefore, the number of gates/profound handle levels don't match up at all.

    Also, the reason it improves with each gate opening, is because each gate that opens improves the quality of the profound veins, thus improving the profound handle. If he had still had his original Yun family veins, he would have most likely had a higher base level, as they are more compatible, but they wouldn't be able to improve further. I believe it was said that without any gates open, his profound veins are basically no different from anyone else's, and since they are not his original ones and are not Yun family profound veins, it makes sense that his original base level was red. Also:

    As he said, if the Evil God was the Yun family ancestor, then the veins would have absolutely been compatible and he should have spawned an extremely high level profound handle.

    Finally, as much as the Evil God is talked about, his powers over the elements are always mentioned, yet a power like the profound handle hasn't even been hinted at. If the power came from him, one would think Mars would at least hint at the Evil God having that power.

    First: Yeah, the Profound Gates match up perfectly with the Profound Handle colors, look:

    0 Gate: Red (10% power)
    1st Gate: Orange (20% power)
    2nd Gate: Yellow (30% power)
    3rd Gate: Green (40% power)
    4th Gate: Cyan (50% power)
    5th Gate: Blue (60% power)
    6th Gate: Purple (70% power)
    7th Gate: Gold (100% power).

    How the fact that the Dragon God's Marrow/quality of the blood etc interfere with the Profound Handle disqualify my theory? When I said that it matched up with one another I was referring to the natural state in which Yun Che hadn't any changes in his blood. 

    Why would the Yun Family inherit all the powers of the Evil God? Don't you remember that the power of a bloodline goes weakening the more it pass down from generation to generation? So that's to say that Yun Che's son will have the Evil God's Profound Veins as well? If I'm right and the Yun Family is the Evil God's offspring, it's been already at least 1 million of years since their birth, obviously the bloodline will be mutating and weakening.

    Yun Che seldom uses his Profound Handle and nobody knows that much about it, so obviously we'll have no many hints about. Let's wait until Yun Che start to use the Profound Handle, maybe some hints will start to appear. And well, we have no much info about the Evil God's power as well besides that he has the control over the elements and the Ice Flames, how would we know something so specific as the Profound Handle?

    lorwa said:
    Why doesn't Yun family inherit his evil vein? His evil vein rely on evil god blood, so Yun family bloodline should at least has evil vein right?

    The first question I have already answered above:

    Why would the Yun Family inherit all the powers of the Evil God? Don't you remember that the power of a bloodline goes weakening the more it pass down from generation to generation? So that's to say that Yun Che's son will have the Evil God's Profound Veins as well? If I'm right and the Yun Family is the Evil God's offspring, it's been already at least 1 million of years since their birth, obviously the bloodline will be mutating and weakening.

    lorwa said:
    Where does purple lightning art comes from? Why is it only lightning? Evil God should pass down at least more than 1 element in Yun family right?

    As far as I know, the Purple Profound Lightning was created by a Ancestor around 10 thousand years ago, at least hasn't been stated that it has something to do with the Evil God. I really didn't understand why you has put questionings about the Purple Profound Lightning as if they were arguments against my theory.

    lorwa said:
    His offspring could exist, but the offspring would've not born a True God, since Jasmine said after primordial era (after calamity) the primordial qi 

    Please complete your sentence. But if you are questioning the fact that a True God would be able to leave behind a offspring after the Primordial Era True Gods' Calamity, please read this:


    Chapter 292 – Information about the Azure Cloud Continent

    As the demon said that, his sealed left hand started to flicker with a cyan radiance: “In the records that the ancestors left behind, it once talked about our noble Yun Family being the descendant of some Primordial True God’s bloodline! And this Profound Handle, is precisely an ability that only a True God could possess!

    This is a flag that hints that the Yun Family is the offspring of a True God. If this fact isn't true, why would Mars hint it this way?

    We don't know who the Evil Embryo aimed when it used its powers, but it was probably only the two races in war, the True Gods and the Devils. Probably the other races were not aimed. If they were, maybe the Evil God protected Blue Pole Star from receiving damages (though it doesn't make sense).
  • @Evil Jesus

    I fully agree with your theory, I think we might get some extra information from the evil god himself when Yun Che receives the 4th or the 5th seed. Since the evil god remains already spoke to him before when he received the 2nd seed.
  • xTynone said:
    @Evil Jesus

    I fully agree with your theory, I think we might get some extra information from the evil god himself when Yun Che receives the 4th or the 5th seed. Since the evil god remains already spoke to him before when he received the 2nd seed.

    Finally someone who fully agree without "buts" or "however's". When I was writing this topic I didn't expect that people would oppose so much to the theory haha

    But well, opposition is nice as well.
  • edited January 2017

    First: Yeah, the Profound Gates match up perfectly with the Profound Handle colors, look:

    0 Gate: Red (10% power)
    1st Gate: Orange (20% power)
    2nd Gate: Yellow (30% power)
    3rd Gate: Green (40% power)
    4th Gate: Cyan (50% power)
    5th Gate: Blue (60% power)
    6th Gate: Purple (70% power)
    7th Gate: Gold (100% power).

    How the fact that the Dragon God's Marrow/quality of the blood etc interfere with the Profound Handle disqualify my theory? When I said that it matched up with one another I was referring to the natural state in which Yun Che hadn't any changes in his blood. 

    Why would the Yun Family inherit all the powers of the Evil God? Don't you remember that the power of a bloodline goes weakening the more it pass down from generation to generation? So that's to say that Yun Che's son will have the Evil God's Profound Veins as well? If I'm right and the Yun Family is the Evil God's offspring, it's been already at least 1 million of years since their birth, obviously the bloodline will be mutating and weakening.

    Yun Che seldom uses his Profound Handle and nobody knows that much about it, so obviously we'll have no many hints about. Let's wait until Yun Che start to use the Profound Handle, maybe some hints will start to appear. And well, we have no much info about the Evil God's power as well besides that he has the control over the elements and the Ice Flames, how would we know something so specific as the Profound Handle?
    After u put it that way, it does make sense. Even though I still don't really think that the Yun Family are the descendants of the Evil God's offspring but regardless it's a good hypothesis.
    "What fun would it be to become the king of the Tower? Tell Zahard to keep his boring seat. I will get out of the Tower." - Urek Mazino
  • edited January 2017
    Chapter 292 – Information about the Azure Cloud Continent

    As the demon said that, his sealed left hand started to flicker with a cyan radiance: “In the records that the ancestors left behind, it once talked about our noble Yun Family being the descendant of some Primordial True God’s bloodline! And this Profound Handle, is precisely an ability that only a True God could possess!

    This is a flag that hints that the Yun Family is the offspring of a True God. If this fact isn't true, why would Mars hint it this way?

    We don't know who the Evil Embryo aimed when it used its powers, but it was probably only the two races in war, the True Gods and the Devils. Probably the other races were not aimed. If they were, maybe the Evil God protected Blue Pole Star from receiving damages (though it doesn't make sense).
    Ok, my previous argument was a typo. Let me rephrase.

    - If Evil god has a child before downfall of Divine Era, shouldn't he also be a True God? During that time, primordial qi are very thick, so any God offspring should be a True God. However, If his child is a True God and survive the whole calamity, it contradicts with the fact that Evil God is called the last True God of Divine era.

    - If He has a child after Divine Era, then who would be his partner? Human race?

    - If Evil vein and blood gets thinner for each generation, how can profound handle still appears on these people? If it's million year, then profound handle should already disappear along with evil vein.

    Basically, I can't think of a good reason why profound handle, which is something that appear on body of Yun family (on the arm), still appears in Yun family after 1 million years. Yet, Evil gates, which is something that appears in profound vein, are no trace to be found after 1 million years.
  • edited January 2017
    lorwa said:
    Chapter 292 – Information about the Azure Cloud Continent

    As the demon said that, his sealed left hand started to flicker with a cyan radiance: “In the records that the ancestors left behind, it once talked about our noble Yun Family being the descendant of some Primordial True God’s bloodline! And this Profound Handle, is precisely an ability that only a True God could possess!

    This is a flag that hints that the Yun Family is the offspring of a True God. If this fact isn't true, why would Mars hint it this way?

    We don't know who the Evil Embryo aimed when it used its powers, but it was probably only the two races in war, the True Gods and the Devils. Probably the other races were not aimed. If they were, maybe the Evil God protected Blue Pole Star from receiving damages (though it doesn't make sense).
    Ok, my previous argument was a typo. Let me rephrase.

    - If Evil god has a child before downfall of Divine Era, shouldn't he also be a True God? During that time, primordial qi are very thick, so any God offspring should be a True God. In addition to that, If his child is a True God and survive the whole calamity, it contradicts with the fact that Evil God is called the last True God of Divine era.

    - If He has a child after Divine Era, then who would be his partner?

    - If Evil vein and blood gets thinner for each generation, how can profound handle still appears on these people? If it's million year, then profound handle should already disappear along with evil vein.

    Basically, I can't think of a good reason why profound handle, which is something that appear on body of Yun family (on the arm), still appears in Yun family after 1 million years. Yet, Evil gates, which is something that appears in profound vein, are no trace to be found after 1 million years.
    He might just have had one child and the partner does not have to be known at this point?
    Also they don't have to inherit al the powers of the evil god, they might just have inherited his profound handle and part of the veins which makes them able to use the handle but without different gates to open.

    Even now people don't always get all the powers from their parents. This even differs among siblings.
    Just like Qingyue and yuanba have inherited different things.
  • edited January 2017
    Maybe Evil God has love story. In love with some powerless human race, and Lingxi is her reincarnation lol.
  • edited January 2017
    xTynone said:
    He might just have had one child and the partner does not have to be known at this point?
    Also they don't have to inherit al the powers of the evil god, they might just have inherited his profound handle and part of the veins which makes them able to use the handle but without different gates to open.

    Even now people don't always get all the powers from their parents. This even differs among siblings.
    Just like Qingyue and yuanba have inherited different things.
    We don't know yet what kind of power do their mom have, so we can't conclude anything yet. There doesn't seem to be specific "God legacies/bloodline" that categorize what Qingyue or Yuanba inherited. 

    For example:
    - LDE family inherited crow bloodline in each generation
    - DPE family inherited phoenix bloodline in each generation
    - Jasmine and her bro inherited one of the star gods bloodline
    - Yun family inherited profound handle from unknown True God bloodline

    However, The two sibling basically have great physique: Glass heart (mind), Nine Exquisite body (contain small world), and Tyrannical vein (vein size). It is more like Dragon marrow that buff up your body bones than having special blood circulating your body.
  • edited January 2017
    lorwa said:
    - If Evil god has a child before downfall of Divine Era, shouldn't he also be a True God? During that time, primordial qi are very thick, so any God offspring should be a True God. However, If his child is a True God and survive the whole calamity, it contradicts with the fact that Evil God is called the last True God of Divine era.

    When I say "Yun Family", please understand that I'm talking about the first person created by the Evil God that originated the Yun Family and all of his descendants.

    This argument kinda of makes no sense. If you're right, so it's impossible for the Yun Family to be descendant of a True God since they are not True Gods. If that's so, again, why would Mars hint this that way? I believe that for some reason the Yun Family's first person wasn't a True God, but I don't know that reason.

    - If He has a child after Divine Era, then who would be his partner? Human race?

    It's said that the True Gods created a lot of races, the Evil God can have created the Yun Family without a partner (just like the god of the Christianism). To do it, he maybe used some of his blood or something like that to pass down his bloodline (and inheritances like Profound Handle). Also, I don't believe that the Yun Family is from after the Divine Era, though I wouldn't have problems if they were.

    lorwa said:
    - If Evil vein and blood gets thinner for each generation, how can profound handle still appears on these people? If it's million year, then profound handle should already disappear along with evil vein.

    So you're saying that in this 1 million year period the Evil God's inheritances should have already disappeared. On what bases are you affirming this? How do you know 1 million years is enough to make the these inheritances disappear and how could you know how those inheritances behaved throughout the 1 million years period? We don't even know how the Evil God's true Profound Handle was, and how would you know that this is the same as it was 1 million years ago? And what Evil Vein? I haven't said that the Yun Family had the Evil God's Veins.

    Anyways, it can also be justified by the argument I've said above: When the Evil God created the Yun Family, he used only part of his blood or something like that and that's why the Yun Family's Profound Handle or powers (like control over elements) are not as strong as the Evil God's. If you think this way, you can think that within this 1 million years period, the Yun Family's inheritance (Profound Handle) hasn't be thinning nor changing/mutating throughout the years. The only difference is that the Profound Handle's color varies from person to person.

    Basically, I can't think of a good reason why profound handle, which is something that appear on body of Yun family (on the arm), still appears in Yun family after 1 million years. Yet, Evil gates, which is something that appears in profound vein, are no trace to be found after 1 million years.

    Again:

    So you're saying that in this 1 million year period the Evil God's inheritances should have already disappeared. On what bases are you affirming this? How do you know 1 million years is enough to make the inheritances disappear and how could you know how those inheritances behaved throughout the 1 million years period? We don't even know how the Evil God's true Profound Handle was, and how would you know that this is the same as it was 1 million years ago? And what Evil Vein?

    You don't know what the Profound Handle is exactly and how it behaves when passed down from generation to generation. You don't know if it mutates, thickens or keep thinning. The inheritances are not all the same thing. So probably some of them behaves in a different way. So what have happened throughout this million years or what should happened, we can't know of this so far.
  • edited January 2017
    I think it was said that people with Tyrant Emperor's Divine Veins have appeared in the past in PSC. Jasmine also said the same thing regarding Heart of Snow Glazed Glass and Nine Profound Exquisite Body, just that they were much more rarer especially the first one.
    So it might be that these aren't passed down through the generations but instead are a sort of mutation or depend upon luck.
    "What fun would it be to become the king of the Tower? Tell Zahard to keep his boring seat. I will get out of the Tower." - Urek Mazino
  • lorwa said:
    xTynone said:
    He might just have had one child and the partner does not have to be known at this point?
    Also they don't have to inherit al the powers of the evil god, they might just have inherited his profound handle and part of the veins which makes them able to use the handle but without different gates to open.

    Even now people don't always get all the powers from their parents. This even differs among siblings.
    Just like Qingyue and yuanba have inherited different things.
    We don't know yet what kind of power do their mom have, so we can't conclude anything yet. There doesn't seem to be specific "God legacies/bloodline" that categorize what Qingyue or Yuanba inherited. 

    For example:
    - LDE family inherited crow bloodline in each generation
    - DPE family inherited phoenix bloodline in each generation
    - Jasmine and her bro inherited one of the star gods bloodline
    - Yun family inherited profound handle from unknown True God bloodline

    However, The two sibling basically have great physique: Glass heart (mind), Nine Exquisite body (contain small world), and Tyrannical vein (vein size). It is more like Dragon marrow that buff up your body bones than having special blood circulating your body.
    Still doesn't change the fact that even though people in the ROTG are ancestors of true gods they also do not have all their power but only a part of it. If you would simply push this on, primordial qi isn't thick enough anymore than it is all the more obvious why the Yun clan would have even less powers inherited from the evil god(since the place where the primordial qi is the thickest is still in the ROTG).
  • I think they are defended from a true God but not the evil God, I think it was one of the true gods the evil God was friendly with like the dragon crow and pheonix gods
  • wgra5 said:
    I think they are defended from a true God but not the evil God, I think it was one of the true gods the evil God was friendly with like the dragon crow and pheonix gods

    That's a hypothesis, but from all the True Gods that we know so far, the one who has the higher possibility of being Yun Family's ancestor is the Evil God.
  • @Evil Jesus 

     Well, I am not trying to be douche bag here, but I am still unconvinced with your arguments.

    This argument kinda of makes no sense. If you're right, so it's impossible for the Yun Family to be descendant of a True God since they are not True Gods. If that's so, again, why would Mars hint this that way? I believe that for some reason the Yun Family's first person wasn't a True God, but I don't know that reason.
    I am not saying that Evil God can't have non-True God descendant, but the question is how would he has it? It is impossible for him to have it during the Divine Era since his children would definitely become True God, so he can only has it after divine era.

    - If Yuns are created by Evil God would make them God descendants, then wouldn't all human race who were created by various Gods are God descendants? Don't they all inherited God power? Why is ones created by Evil God have special Godly power, while all others are normal human?

    - If Yuns are created by Evil God with Evil blood bestowed, where's Evil vein now? Why is there profound handle but no evil veins/gates?
    So you're saying that in this 1 million year period the Evil God's inheritances should have already disappeared. On what bases are you affirming this? How do you know 1 million years is enough to make the these inheritances disappear and how could you know how those inheritances behaved throughout the 1 million years period? We don't even know how the Evil God's true Profound Handle was, and how would you know that this is the same as it was 1 million years ago? And what Evil Vein? I haven't said that the Yun Family had the Evil God's Veins. 

    Anyways, it can also be justified by the argument I've said above: When the Evil God created the Yun Family, he used only part of his blood or something like that and that's why the Yun Family's Profound Handle or powers (like control over elements) are not as strong as the Evil God's. If you think this way, you can think that within this 1 million years period, the Yun Family's inheritance (Profound Handle) hasn't be thinning nor changing/mutating throughout the years. The only difference is that the Profound Handle's color varies from person to person.

    Well, you don't get my argument. I am saying that profound handle and evil vein should go together, since we certainly knows that evil vein comes from Evil God blood, and Profound Handle also comes from Yun blood. If Profound Handle survive for 1 million year, then Evil vein should also survive for 1 million year. It's either both or none by the bloodline.

    But weaker argument can be made such as Evil vein is only activates when all gates are opened, since no Yuns have all gates open so they won't notice it now.

    In conclusion, Evil God seems to be the most likely one to be Yun's ancestor, since he's the last one surviving and all Yun originates from blue planet. However, I have problems with how he has his descendants and how there isn't any Evil vein in Yun family.

    Ultimately, there are a lot of assumption and guesses, so they could be wrong. For example:
    - Evil vein might not be inheritable through bloodline.
    - Children during divine era are not necessarily True God (if, for example, mate with mortals)

  • @lorwa, I go with ur arguement......if the Evil God had descendants, they would have his Evil God veins & they would be kings of the 3 Blue Sky Pole Continent exceeding the Sovereign realm
    Blessed are those who ain't xpectin 4 surely they shall never ever be disappointed>>>Mars Snail

    2 much ANALYSIS "may" likely lead to PARALYSIS...
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